Khazar theory a scapegoat for Jews

James_Tissot_The_Morning_Judgment_400By Timothy Fitzpatrick
Sept. 7, 2014 Anno Domini

Regardless of if those who call themselves “Jews” today are indeed the descendants of Abraham, they are behaving in the spirit of the ancients who rejected Christ.

That is what matters most. People who obsess on the racial heritage of today’s Jews are missing the bigger picture. However, there is some value to the racial heritage question on a secular level. For example, if today’s Jews are not descendants of Abraham, how then can they, according to the Zionist view, justifiably claim a Biblical right to Palestine? But the focus of this article will be the Khazar theory as scapegoat for Jews and their anti-Christian behaviour.

Much of the confusion, present mainly in Protestant circles, is caused by a misunderstanding of Jesus words found in Saint John’s Apocalypse, chapter 2, verse 9.

I know thy tribulation and thy poverty, but thou art rich: and thou art blasphemed by them that say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

The confused are rendering this passage carnally, saying that Jesus was singling out only “fake Jews” as the synagogue of Satan but not the true descendants of Abraham. The root cause of this confusion stems from the heresy of dual covenant theology, which states that Jews are saved based on their race alone, not on their faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. The truth of the matter is that Jesus was speaking of the spiritual bankruptcy of ethnic Jews.


Khazars didn’t exist when Jesus spoke against the Synagogue of Satan

khazaria1The Khazar Empire, a medieval power that lay just north of the theocratic Christian Byzantium Empire, is believed to have been established around the 7th century A.D., several hundred years after Christ walked the Earth. During the 8th century, many of its nobles converted to Judaism. It is believed that many or most of today’s European (Ashkenazi) Jews are descended from this Turkish Khazar tribe. How is it, then, that Jesus could have been referring to these supposed “fake” Khazar Jews in His admonishment of the Synagogue of Satan throughout the Gospels? Were the Jews to whom He spoke indeed the literal descendants of Abraham? The answer is unequivocally, yes. In almost all of Jesus’ discourse with the Zionist Jews of His time, he focused on their spiritual blindness, not on their supposed racial legitimacy. In the following passage, Jesus makes it clear that the faithful spirit that was present with Abraham, not ethnicity, is what counts. The following passage also proves that Jesus did not view the Synagogue of Satan as Khazar Jews.

I know that you are the children of Abraham: but you seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and you do the things that you have seen with your father. They answered, and said to him: Abraham is our father. Jesus saith to them: If you be the children of Abraham, do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill me, a man who have spoken the truth to you, which I have heard of God. This Abraham did not. You do the works of your father. They said therefore to him: We are not born of fornication: we have one Father, even God. Jesus therefore said to them: If God were your Father, you would indeed love me. For from God I proceeded, and came; for I came not of myself, but he sent me: Why do you not know my speech? Because you cannot hear my word. (John 8:37-43)

Jesus then exposes the true source of their spirit.

You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. (John 8:44)

The consistent message in the New Testament is that one’s spirit towards Christ will determine his ultimate destiny, heaven or hell…to be reborn of the Spirit or to remain in the spirit of bondage to sin. There is no way of carnalizing the Gospels and making them about heritage or ethnicity.

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The terms “Jew” and “Israel” were redefined by Christ’s coming

Adding to the confusion of the identity of the Synagogue of Satan is the definition of the term “Jew” in the Bible. In the New Testament, there are instances where Jew refers to a racial/national group and other instances where Jews are referred to as a spiritual group. Still yet, Jews are also referred to as an adversarial group, summed up in the term “Synagogue of Satan” and hinted at in passages like “they hid for fear of the Jews.” So how are we to determine what “Jew” means? Historian E. Michael Jones has a solid grasp of the variation in application of the term “Jew.”

When St. John uses the words “oi Ioudaioi,” he is referring to a group that has rejected Christ. The coming of Christ changed Jewish identity forever, something the Jews at His time comprehended only with difficulty. From then, the terms “Israelite” and “Jew” were no longer synonyms, because, Ferdinand Hahn points out in Caron’s book, “the true Israelites” from the Christian perspective “are precisely those who, like Nathaniel, recognize Jesus as the Messiah.

—E. Michael Jones, “The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its Impact on World History”, Fidelity Press, South Bend, Indiana, 2008, p. 33-34

Upon Christ’s arrival…the situation changes, for the Jews have to accept Christ to remain Israel…John uses the term “Jew” two ways. He begins by saying that “Salvation comes from the Jews,” and ends by saying those who call themselves “Jews” are not children of Abraham or Moses and, in fact, have Satan as their father. From identifying the word Jew with “we,” as he does with the Samaritan woman, Jesus goes on to refer to what John calls “Jews” as “you,” which is to say, a group that does not include Jesus. Accepting or rejecting the Messiah becomes the principal way of defining what it means to be a Jew. (p. 36)

In other words, the true meaning of what it means to be a Jew has to do with the spirit that was present with Abraham. By rejecting Christ, the Jews also rejected Abraham, for the Spirit of Christ was with Abraham. However, now, the term “Jew” has been redefined as a rejecter of Christ, regardless of ethnicity; for the Jews, in their rejection of Christ, accepted Satan as their father.

There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28)

One who distinguishes him or herself as Jewish is declaring their rejection of Christ and the spiritual redefinition of God’s people in the above passage from Galatians. Israel is the spiritual body of Christ, composed of the faithful, from all races. Spiritual Israel and the Church are one and the same. Fleshly Israel has been put away.

That because the rebellious Israel had played the harlot, I had put her away, and had given her a bill of divorce: yet her treacherous sister Juda was not afraid, but went and played the harlot also herself. (Jeremiah 3:8)

Scapegoating Jews

Those who continue to advance the lie that Jesus was referring to Khazar Jews when He admonished the Synagogue of Satan are not only guilty of falsifying history but also of excusing ethnic Jews of their rejection of Jesus the Messiah. There can be no excuse for a Jew, or anyone, who rejects Jesus. In a religious and spiritual context, the Khazar debate is irrelevant. There is no validity in the dichotomy of “fake Jews” vs. “real Jews” outside of St. John’s definition of “Jews”.  And Jewish behaviour today cannot be excused away as being the rotten fruits of Turkish impostors. Jewish behaviour today is no different than it was 2,000 years ago when the Jews cried for the release of the criminal Barabbas over Jesus and for Herod to crucify the Messiah. The likely reason why some push the Khazar theory is in a cowardice attempt to avoid being labelled a racist or anti-Semite whilst implicating “Khazars” in crimes and conspiracy.

Yet no man spoke openly of Him, for fear of the Jews. (John 7:13)

Another group advocating the Khazar scapegoat are British Israelists (Christian Identity) and some white nationalists. Under the same spiritual blindness as Jews, this group rationalizes that if they can make today’s Jews out to be racial impostors of the ancient Hebrews, they themselves will inherit the birthright or, a more extreme view, they are the true descendants of the Hebrews. The latter view has its roots in the millenarianist heresy that plagued England during the Protestant Reformation.

More disturbing, perhaps, is the fact that many evangelical Christians embrace the Khazar scapegoat, in an attempt to deify the Jews. To avoid implicating their god race in the world conspiracy—on the rare occasion when they actually admit a world conspiracy exists—these Christian Zionists dismiss it as being merely the work of the Khazar tribe, not “true Jews”. What they are saying then is that “true” racial Jews are racially incapable of sin, racially incapable of being the conspirators leading the New World Order. Of course, this is completely absurd and completely contrary to the basic tenets of Christianity. This belief is more in line with something from the Third Reich than the Bible.

Genealogical records destroyed along with the Temple
It is next to impossible to argue that destruction of Jerusalem, the Temple, and the slaughter of one million Jews (according to Titus Flavius Josephus) in 70 AD was not the work of God that brought the Old Covenant to fulfillment as well as prophet Daniel’s Seventy Weeks prophecy. But also destroyed by divine will were all genealogical records of the ancient Hebrews. This is not only a major problem for racialists today, it is further evidence of the deeper spiritual truth behind the chosen-people archetype. If God intended for a small Hebrew tribe to rule the world for eternity, surely He would have kept in tact proof of this tribe’s racial authenticity. But since this was not the case, the loss of the Temple records is further evidence that God’s intention from the beginning was a faithful universal people unto Him, with the ancient Hebrew era serving as a mere type of bigger things to come. Saint Paul drives this home in his instruction to Timothy:

As I desired thee to remain at Ephesus when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some not to teach otherwise, not to give heed to fables and endless genealogies: which furnish questions rather than the edification of God, which is in faith.  (1Timothy 1:3-4)


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  1. dachsielady

     /  September 15, 2014

    First of all, I say a big thank you and God bless you for explaining this so nicely. Even E. Michael Jones is a bit difficult to understand on this, and I am going to have to break this down a bit more for some folks I’m communicating with on another forum, though I doubt they will ever get it.

    “However, there is some value to the racial heritage question on a secular level. For example, if today’s Jews are not descendants of Abraham, how then can they justifiably claim a Biblical right to Palestine?”

    I would say that they cannot justifiably claim a Biblical right to Palestine even if their DNA shows they are descendants of Abraham.

    Besides accepting Jesus having nothing whatsoever to do with DNA, skin color, and any material thing in this world including land, I think there is pretty strong Biblical evidence that the “land promises to Abraham” which are said to be “everlasting” [Hebrew word olam which does not really mean “everlasting), were already completely fulfilled during Old Testament times.

    THREE Times it says in the Old Testament it says that God fulfilled every promise of land that he gave to Abraham for the Jews in the Old Testament, IN the Old Testament He fulfilled it, so there is nothing left to fulfill.

    Joshua 21:43-45
    I Kings 8:56
    Nehemiah 9:7-8

    Joshua 21:43-45: “Thus the Lord gave to Israel all the land which he swore to give to their fathers; and having taken possession of it, they settled there…Not one of all the good promises which the Lord had made to the house of Israel had failed; all came to pass”;

    1Kings 8:56: “Blessed be the Lord who has given rest to his people Israel, according to all that he promised; not one word has failed of all his good promise, which he uttered by Moses his servant”;

    Nehemiah 9:7-8: “Thou art the Lord, the God who didst choose Abram and bring him forth out of Ur of the Chaldeans and give him the name Abraham; and thou didst find his heart faithful before thee, and didst make with him the covenant to give to his descendants the land of the Canaanite, the Hittite, the Amorite, the Perizzite, the Jebusite, and the Girgashite; and thou hast fulfilled thy promise, for thou art righteous.”

    I cannot stress enough that the content of this article needs to be explained a million ways from Sunday in cornbread English and ought to be taught very plainly in a YouTube video showing good visuals, and even using the KJV to get the message through to the particularly veiled minds.

    God bless you in the Name of the One Who is Truth

    • formitable

       /  October 23, 2014

      dachsielady, Fitz calls it a pickle, here is another one…Not all Israel is Israel. I only pay attention to what happens in Zionist Israel because it effects world events on a massive scale. Anything that happens has been well thought out before the world get sucked into it. It always involves lies, degeneracy, murder, deception, infamous, immoral, vicious, contemptible ACTS to degrade all humanity or rather God’s creation. Truly I only care about God’s Israel and God’s Jerusalem and not Satan’s fraud brought to us by the Luciferian Talmudic Jews and their bondage.

      Kharzar tag just takes a little heat off, its not those Talmudic antichrist Jews or Torah antichrist Jews its those nasty Khazars Zionists that are spoiling it for Jews. Forget the verbal basketball, its all crap…let them fight over their Jerusalem and their Israel…we are not to be in bondage to that piece of real estate nor are we to join with the Great Mother Whore who lies via its Kabalistic Pagan Babylonian, Jewishness…go for it boys, have it and when it is all over please close the the door to hell, your bottomless pit, you opened behind you when you leave! Incidentally please do not leave your trash behind…those Judeo-Christian and Messianic Jews who licked and payed lying homage to you so you could destroy millions of souls. Take comfort in your death and destruction. On God, if only the Palestinians knew scripture they too would not be in bondage to earthly real estate.

      And all those Palestinian, Iraqi, Afghanistan, Pakistani, Lebanese, and Serbian men, women and children you eviscerated to your God Moloch…God will judge you accordingly. Your land bought with their blood…who will show these pit vipers their sins…you antisemite you! Tell me, when did God say their sins were full (the Palestinians) so go and take the land… I cannot rail against Satan, your mentor, but you guys made a conscious choice to steal and murder and plunder weak innocent victims. You truly are Goliath and they are little David…you bet…the nations and Zionist Israel have had 6000 years of testimony! Where are the Stephens?

      Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
      Act 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
      Act 7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
      Act 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
      Act 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
      Act 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
      Act 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,
      Act 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man’s feet, whose name was Saul.

  2. johannes3v16

     /  September 16, 2014

    Reblogged this on John3v16.

    Since many Creationists, Fundamentalists, and I suppose Jews and Christians in general believe that they believe what the author of this 2,500 year old text believed (and by extension what the god of his text also believed!), I’ve decided to list his beliefs (and “God’s”) clearly and orderly. This follows from the textual analyses of Genesis 1:1-2:3 that were previously posted: Gen 1:1-2; Gen 1:3-5; Gen 1:6-8; Gen 1:9-10; Gen 1:14-19; Gen 1:24-27; and Gen 2:2-3. Consult them for specifics.
    As has been repeatedly voiced, our aim here is to reproduce as objectively and faithfully as possible the beliefs of the author of Genesis 1:1-2:3—not ours—as evidenced by an understanding and reading of the text on its own terms and as a product of its own historical and literary world. The author that penned the creation account now found at Genesis 1:1-2:3 had a very unique worldview and set of beliefs that, in large part, were shaped by, and shared throughout, the larger ancient Near Eastern world within which he lived. And these beliefs themselves were most likely formed as the result of what ancient peoples saw and perceived about their world and the conclusions they naturally drew from these limited empirical observations.
    Genesis 1 is an account of the origins of the world as its author perceived it. That is to say, his perception and beliefs about the world and its origins were projected onto the god of his text and in turn this god then created the world that he himself, our author, perceived and experienced. These then are his beliefs:
    1. That God created the earth (dry habitable land, never the planet) and the skies out of preexistent undefined and inhabitable earth that was immersed in a deep, dark watery abyss.
    2. That creation was an act of separating this primordial matter (earth and water) out, subduing it, and forming it into an habitable, life-bearing world.
    3. That the source of day’s light is an inherent and essential property of day itself; its source is not the sun.
    4. That God created day, as light or daylight.
    5. That night is the original primordial darkness.
    6. That God subdued the primordial untamed waters by creating a domed barrier in their midst which separated the waters, now above and below this barrier.
    7. That the sky is this solid transparent domed barrier.
    8. That the sky’s function, as God created it, is to keep back the waters above.
    9. That the sky is blue because of the waters above it.
    10. That the sky, this domed barrier holding the waters above, touched the waters below at the horizons.

    11. That God subdued the waters below and caused them to gather together into seas.
    12. That earth, specifically dry habitable life-supporting land—not the planet—emerged from the depths of these now tamed seas.

    13. That the land or earth was flat.
    14. That the land or earth “floated” upon or was supported by the waters below.
    15. That the earth brought forth all plants and vegetation, each by its own kind.
    16. That God created and placed the sun, moon, and all the stars together in the domed barrier that he had made earlier, above which were the waters above.
    17. That these luminaries were created to regulate and to distinguish between the day and the night, not to create day (daylight) and night.
    18. That these luminaries moved through this domed barrier.
    19. That the moon produces its own light.
    20. That the luminaries’ purpose, in part, was to indicate when the months began, and on what days Yahweh’s festivals (Sabbath, Passover, Unleavened Bread, Horn-Blast Holy Day, Day of Atonement, and Booths) fell and were to be observed.
    21. That the observance of these festivals or holy days were eternal laws punishable by death or excommunication.
    22. That the luminaries, particularly the moon, were created to serve as a calendar system, each new moon beginning a new month.
    23. That God created the living beings of the waters below, each by their kind.
    24. That God created the birds, each by their kind.
    25. That God created the animals of the earth, each by their kind.
    26. That in opposition to the animals, God created mankind, male and female, in his image.
    27. That there existed a plurality of divine beings or a divine counsel of some sort.
    28. That God created all of this in 6 days.
    29. That God created and consecrated the 7th day as holy.
    30. That God rested from his work on the 7th day and therefore man too must rest from his work on the 7th day, as reckoned from the new moon and then each 7th consecutive day afterward.
    31. That anyone caught doing work on the 7th day, that is not observing the Sabbath (our Saturday—but this is still inaccurate since we do not follow a lunar calendar), was to be stoned to death by commandment from God himself.
    32. That the Sabbath was an eternal covenant, to be observed forever, on penalty of death.

    These, then, are what the author of Genesis 1:1-2:3 believed—well actually just a small fraction of what he believed and perceived as “true,” as his experience of the world dictated.
    How many of these are seriously believed by our so-called modern day Creationists? 5? 10? 30%? How long are we as sentient beings going to put up with this dishonest and hypocritical practice? For by feigning belief in Genesis 1, they themselves are some of the most strident enemies of this ancient text and its author. I would expect more out of a species made in the image of God!

    by Dr. Steven DiMattei Copyrighted and posted on May 27, 2014


     /  September 23, 2014

    First off: I Like this” One who distinguishes him or herself as Jewish is declaring their rejection of Christ and the spiritual redefinition of God’s people in the above passage from Galatians.”

    I have always tried to understand what “Jewishness” is all about, because I do read stuff written by people who call themselves “Jews” and I respectfully acknowledge their candidness. Guys like Henry Makwo. But in as much as I would wish to separate “good Jews” from “wicked Jews” it still becomes difficult to see “Jewishness” as anything other that identifying with a people who embrace exclusivist ideologies, of “specialness” “elitist” and patronizing to those who are not Jews. And this kind of exclusivisim, when it is associated with divine ordination, makes it an Antichrist movement, since the only chosen human being on earth by God, is Jesus the Christ. And His choice was made publicly by God, when a voice boomed from heaven. ‘This is My Son, the Beloved; he enjoys my favor. Listen to Him.’ Mathew 17:1-5

    So, as long as a people sees itself as being more beloved by God, they automatically are dethroning the Christ. And when one identifies with such a group, it shows that he is empathetic to their ideologies, which, if they happen to be Antichristical, he also whether he knows its or not, wants it or not, identifies himself with it. So, that, is unfortunately why all Jews, need to renounce their “Jewishness” if they want to be saved, just as all Gentiles must renounce their primitive gods, if they want to be saved.

    You say “Those who continue to advance the lie that Jesus was referring to Khazar Jews when He admonished the Synagogue of Satan are not only guilty of falsifying history but also of excusing ethnic Jews of their rejection of Jesus the Messiah.”
    Its not, I believe that by identifying the Khazar gentile converts to Judeo-Talmidism, its not so much that anybody wants to excuse the ethnic Jews. When you take into consideration that 90-95% of all people who call themselves “Jews” are in fact Khazar converts, the contribution of ethnic Jews becomes inconsequential. So, when one consider the “Jews” one should know that its basically Khazar. To identify this Khazar origin of modern Judeo-Talmudism is not to make the ethnic Jews look good. But rather, its in order to underscore the toxicity of evil which has evolved through centuries in a people who embrace an ideology that rejects the Logos.

    • formitable

       /  October 23, 2014

      Bigfoot, Fitz is making a point here and it should be acknowledged. He sees something spiritually discerned that is taking away from the Word of God by Christ. A subtlety of Satan that no one wants to address! Khazar, starts to un-indict the Jews that Christ said their house is left desolate now. Whatever they are they are the ones Jesus Addressed! Pointing out that they are Khazars has NO relevance whatsoever to the end time delusion and the great falling away to false doctrines and false commandments. Jews and their partners in blasphemy are ALL Pharisaical hypocrites and liars. As I stated above it is all verbal gymnastics. As long as Jews remain recalcitrant towards Christ they will be victims of Satan, his bondservants.

  5. Truther

     /  September 24, 2014

    Hi everyone. I would like to add the point of the Esau/Edomite connection to the jewish tribe that returned from Babylon to rebuild the 2nd temple. May it be possible that the scribes and pharisees of that time were descendants of the edomites, ruling over God’s southern kingdom tribes because Esau gave away his birthright? Herod was an edomite for example.. and that would qualify them as children of Abraham as they claimed and Jesus said (John 8:37-43).

    “You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof” (John 8:44)
    Cain murdered Able. Esau married canaanite women, thus the edomites are a mixed race of descendants of Cain, hittites etc. ” Now these are the records of the generations of Esau” (Genesis 36:1).

    I believe the “Chosen People” campaign are the lost heirs (caanites/edomites) to the birthright trying to deceive the world into that belief. Ezekiel 35 and 36 discusses the destruction of the edomites but notice 36:5 “Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.” This theme is continuous in these Ezekiel chapters. This is also found just before the prophecy of the valley of dry bones (ezekiel 37) which describes the possible rapture/resurrection and the possible Gog/Magog (ezekiel 38/39) end time wars. I don’t believe these prophecies has been fulfilled.

    I believe the truth about being spiritually the seed of satan, and spiritually being seed of Abraham. But I also believe that it is an issue of race. Both parties (Christian Identity/race and the author of this article/spiritual) have convincing arguements so why not agree on both? Makes sense to me. My view is that the state of Israel is the edomites fulfilling this prophecy (ezekiel 36:5), being spiritual and may also be physical descendants. But also, the Illuminati elites which may or may not be physical descendants of Esau/ Cain, definetly are the spiritual seed of satan.


       /  October 3, 2014

      I think this statement can give an insight, although most people disagree with the Book of Esther;

      Mordecai left the royal presence in a princely gown of violet and white, with a great golden crown and a cloak of fine linen and purple. The city of Susa shouted for joy. For the Jews there was light and gladness, joy and honour. In every province and in every city, wherever the king’s command and decree arrived, there was joy and gladness among the Jews, with feasting and holiday-making. Of the country’s population many became Jews, since now the Jews were feared.” Esther 8:15-17

      Remember that Samaritans were Babylonians who were settled in Israel by their King. When they continued with Idolatry Yahweh sent lions who terrorized them. They sent an emissary to the king, and Judean priests were sent there to show them how to worship Yahweh, and they converted to Judaism.

      So, here we have a huge number of Babylonians converting to Judaism for fear of Jews. Then we have the Samaritans who converted to Judaism, because of being terrorized by Lions. Then, much much later, we have the Khazar, who converted to Judeo-Tamudism for political expedience So, its clear that the mongliarization of the “Jews” is so perverse that it would not be likely to find a “pure Jews” in these so-called “Jews”

  6. somethinghappeninghere

     /  September 27, 2014

    I really really appreciate what you wrote in your article especially about the spiritual aspects of what it means to be spiritual Israel vs. fleshly Israel (today’s state of Israel and the seeming Christian Zionist worship of it), but not everyone who brings up the Khazar argument is scapegoating Jews…I do not believe that since Ashkenazi Jews are Khazar they are the synagogue of Satan, but I do believe that since Ashkenazi Jews are Khazar they have no right to rule the State of Israel, genocide Palestinians, and run the world’s banking oligarchical systems via connection to the Satanic Rothschilds,, and, with Scholmo Sand’s and ElHaik’s DNA studies proving Palestinian DNA is similar or even mostly Israelite DNA, they do have a right to rule in the State of Israel today–that said, today’s State of Israel is most certainly NOT God’s Israel,, whether run by Khazars or by Muslim Palestinians. But again, thanks for this article!

    • Agreed. The Khazar debate has legitimacy on a secular, political level, and indeed, Christians should advocate the right of Palestinians to occupied Palestine.

    • formitable

       /  October 25, 2014

      Somethinghappeninghere, I believe Jesus thought the Jews had not right to rule Israel either…thus: Mat 21:38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
      Mat 21:39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
      Mat 21:40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?

      Mat 21:41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
      Mat 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
      Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

      When did the kingdom come? When Shiloh came! When are the last days, Jesus 1st coming to his 2nd coming. Who will be given the kingdom? True Israel when Christ returns! The Jews last days was Shiloh, the coming of Messiah, our last day is when Jesus Returns and yet there will be a last last day after the 1000 years. We are on our way from the outer court to the inner court to the Holy of Holies. No one has a right to the land of Israel or Jerusalem till Jesus returns…no one; who says?…the Word of God does. You can live there but to shed innocent blood only will bring judgment. The presence of God must be there but for now it has departed.

      Interesting read by a real Jew who became a true Christian and knows the score, Pastor Reckart in Tampa; he is continually attacked by the synagogue of Satan. He plainly tells the Jews you must come the same way we Christians do or you will not see the kingdom of God…

      There are true Jews becoming Christians now but also there are fake Jews being converted who want to bring you under the Law and the Old Covenant…you have to discern doctrine to determine who is legitimate and who is the antichrist.

      Jesus will not let out the vineyard until he returns…..right now antichrist has it! The deception, most will not acknowledge or for that matter even recognize. But have you noticed Jerusalem is the point of contention for all the claimants. The Temple, Throne and Mount.

  7. Jitka

     /  October 3, 2014

    Timothy Fitzpatrick:

    You should reconsider parts of your argument. The Biblical passages referring to Jews that you’ve cited are translations of Greek and Roman translations of the original works in Aramaic or Hebrew. Distortions have crept in as a result. The original passages don’t refer to Jews because no people around the time of Jesus were called Jews. If the label Jew must be applied to any population during the time of Jesus, it should be applied to the Pharisees whom Jesus strongly condemned; the Pharisees were the a) spiritual descendents of the Levitical priests who wrote the Torah/Old Testament and b) the authors of the Talmud. Two terms relevant to the time are Judahite [indicating lineage] and Judean [indicating geographic residence], neither of which can be translated as Jew.

    Centuries before the first book of the Old Testament, Deuteronomy [~ 622 B.C.], was written, the Israelites had dissociated themselves from the Judahites. There are no reasons to believe that the Judahites were ever an Israelite people. The small tribe of Judah, although very racist and supremacist, extensively intermarried with others, presumably as a strategic reason to ensure continuity—e.g., even David the Judahite king took the non-Judahite Bathsheeba, and his successor, Solomon, took may non-Judahite wives. As a result of mixed marriages, even centuries before Christ no person who was a direct descendent of Judahites was left. Then there was a mass conversion to Edomites to Judean ways by John Hyrcanus about 120 years before Christ.

    After the expulsion of Talmudists from Spain in the late 1400s, the center of Talmudist power moved to Poland, something that didn’t result from a mass migration of Talmudists expelled from Spain and Portugal but from Khazar converts to Talmudism. The Khazars couldn’t call themselves Judahites or Judeans because nobody would believe them, and they started using an abbreviation to refer to themselves, Jews, a word that has come into usage in recent centuries.

    So not only are modern Ashkenazi/Khazar Jews not the descendents of Judahites, let alone Israelites, the direct descendents of the small tribe of Judah ceased to exist centuries before Christ because of extensive mixing with others. You’d want to refer to “The Controversy of Zion” by Douglas Reed for the details; find it online.

    You also need to reconsider the argument of a spiritual Israel. The god of the Old Testament, Yhwh or Jehovah as he’s more commonly known, caters to the Judahites, his chosen people, and asks the Judahites to destroy others; attempting to destroy others is what the adherents of the creed of Judah have been doing. The god of Christianity in contrast is a different god as he caters to all humans. The Old Testament is incompatible with the universalism of Christianity and ought to have been discarded by early Christians as an irreconcilable corruption of the word of God, but it got stuck to the New Testament. So you have to bring in “spiritual Israel” and other meaningless notions to reconcile the creed of Judah with the universalism of Christianity, a task that’s impossible.

    • Spiritual Israel is superior to carnal Israel, not merely an agreeable alternative. Spiritual Israel was the intention from the beginning. Carnal Israel was a means to an end in a fallen and carnal world. Every single Church Father knew this simple truth.

      Do Jews and their Christian Zionist co-conspirators like to be told that they only exist to bear witness to Christ? Of course not. They want it all. They want to dethrone God, as their Talmud says.

    • johannes3v16

       /  October 12, 2014

      Great post!

    • johannes3v16

       /  October 12, 2014

      @With great post i meant @Jitka. And thank you fitz for putting this whole stuff on.Meanwhile i am a bit disappointed regarding texe marrs.Why? Perhaps you tell me..

  8. I always use upper and lower case when referring to Jews/jews. The latter being the carnal type which does not understand, ( because they cannot, ) as Paul tells us, that the true Jew is distinguished, as was Abraham their father, not by a circumcision of the body, but of the heart by faith; which is the gift of God given to the carnal mind to make it what God requires, ie the reborn and spiritual mind.
    Thus the Jew will inherit and rule over the earth, and be blessed, and not the jew. This is the profound error which Hagee et al. make. But not this earth, which as Peter tells us, will be burned with fire, on the Day of the Lord; but the New Earth, to which the Lord Jesus Christ will transfer His disciples when He returns; “I go to prepare a place for you, that where I am, there you may be also”.
    Thus we go to where He is; He does not come to where we are, in this present evil world.

    There are two parallel themes defining and running through history; a physical theme dominated by the idea of talmudic jews such as David ben Gurion that they will rule over this physical earth, and that, by virtue of their DNA; and a spiritual theme dominated by the truth that God seeks a people to worship Him not in physical buildings, or at a particular place, but in the living Temple of their hearts. These latter souls of course, “the royal priesthood, the peculiar people”, are of all the different colours and genetic lineages which have ever been.
    Subverting the former group of persons to their own physical conception of the eternal are the Rothschilds. Their love of money has indeed produced the flowerings of evil we witness today throughout the entire world.

  9. southwestbiblestudies

     /  October 15, 2014

    I thought about this before, In revelation it could mean one of two things.
    It is either saying beware of those who say they are Jews but are really khazars.
    Or, beware of them that say they are Jews, but are not because they reject the messiah.
    So I think the second choice is consistent with Romans 2.
    So what does the serpent seed doctrine have to do with all this?

    • dachsielady

       /  October 15, 2014

      “So what does the serpent seed doctrine have to do with all this?”
      That serpent seed nonsense was just created to satisfy the white supremacist ideas of the “Christian identity” nonsense. All of it is heretical garbage and has nothing to do with the words of Jesus Christ and the apostles.

      Many of these heretical doctrines are born in gnosticism and Kabalism.

      I think the use of the word “Jew” in the New Testament has caused much confusion. Father Simon who is Reverend Know It All on Relevant Radio says the word should be “Judean” and that it referred to a political local entity.

      In any event, when Jesus came into the world and died on the cross for ALL, it was a WHOLE NEW BALLGAME. It is not about DNA. Jesus never taught biological determinism or the supremacy of something that after Darwin came on the scene with his brand of nansense was known as “race.” Galations says it is not about Jew or Greek, male or female, etc. It is about circumcision of the heart. If you read the story of the man born blind in John 9 I think. It appears that once a person accepts the Messiah Jesus, he is no longer a “Jew.”

  10. formitable

     /  October 17, 2014

    Jew means Jew whether Khazar, Ashkenazim, Sephardic or whatever… They call themselves Jew and Jew is what they be!…. There is only confusion among those who wish to save antichrist Zionist Israel. Jews have put the Rabbi in place of God, mans word in place of the Word of God (Talmud-Cabala). Those who do not come out will perish, not my job they have heard the gospel since they were knee high to a grasshopper! So preach the Gospel if the Holy Ghost allows, which I doubt He will! They are the ones who have blasphemed the Holy Ghost calling the demonic spirit in them the Holy Ghost…these know the depths of Satan. If God wants one of them he will knock the shit out of him and put him straight. These commit the sin Jesus talked about that you will NOT pray for and the Zionist Christians are close behind licking at their heels. If you preach anything to them just do it like Stephen did, they will only cut your damn head off for doing it though and feed you to the sharks…whoops but first the will take your organs! Tell them any truth and you will be spit on and called an antisemite. They will blatantly lie, they have no conscience any longer it is seared from 2000 years of rebellion and witchcraft! They come from the bottomless pit and are of their father Satan, him they will hear!

  11. I was absolutely amazed to find that even in a discussion of the origins of the New World Order and the place of the Khazar Jews in its construction, it became necessary to make mention of The Third Reich in a disparaging manner. What in Gods name is wrong with you people, who research the past and yet continue to accept the crap that these same Jews, whether Khazar or Semitic have pushed down our universal throats. I stopped reading at that point, as I always do when I get a whiff of the Jews propaganda.

    • Amazed to learn that Judaism and Nazism are ideological equals? I bet.

    • My ignorance renders me incapable of understanding your response. There is, as far as I know, no such thing as Nazism, unless you are referring to all of the nonsense which is often referred to as being of the “extreme right wing” philosophy, which has been used as a means of smearing the “Socialist” regime of Hitlers National “Socialist” Germany.
      Hitler was no more than just another victim of a force which is still active to this day and as far as I am concerned all of the forces which were lined up against him, were Jews from Khazaristan and according to a group of Jewish scholars at the John Hopkins University Medical School, they do not have a Semitic gene in their bodies. So any attempt to make a judgement as to whether or not Jesus Christ was pointing a finger in their direction as being from “The Synagogue of Satan” or not would depend on your own particular faith. Did Jesus know all and everything or not. Either way the discussion does not necessitate yet another jibe at Hitler.
      As for Judaism, whatever it is, it would not amount to much these days had it not been for the intervention of the Eastern European self proclaimed Jews.”

    • Stop pretending that Hitler and his attempt at neo-pagan revival isn’t want truly discredits him. But you want to lie and malign all criticism of Hitler and national socialism as being the ravings of only Jews and their lackeys. A complete understanding of the Jewish question can only be found within the scope of Christianity. Until white nationalists and the like realize this, they will be battling themselves endlessly. As for Christian Identity and British Israelists, well that is utter heresy, of the most contemptible kind.

    • There is very little in your response with which I agree. No explanation of your use of the term “Nazism” to which you now add a few others. Am I now expected to accept that there is something sinister about Paganism? Quite honestly I had no idea whatsoever that it was either Paganism or indeed “Neo Paganism” which discredited Hitler.

      In fact you would appear to be unaware that there is no such thing as New Paganism, it is now referred to as “Ghia” The Earth Religion. I am sure that you are aware that the “Pagans” believed in the sanctity of the Earth and all of the Nature which it supports.

      Mikhail Gorbachev has been given the lucrative job of installing this “Ghia” across the entire world. Why would a Jew, yes he is a Jew, be involved in such a project?

      Next, we come to the term “White Nationalist.” Are you suggesting that my refusal to accept the lies which have been propagated against Hitler and the German People, which in the main have come from the Jewish Community, which has profited enormously at the expense of the German and American Peoples indicates that I am a “White Nationalist?”

      Sorry to disagree once again, my loathing of these so-called Jews, stems from what they have done in Palestine, in recent times. The other atrocities, of which they are guilty, were simply added to a long list of genocidal blood-letting in past times.

      My own people suffered greatly at the hands of these “people” as have many others. Hitler and the Germans were no more than yet another victim of this plague.

      ” As for Christian Identity and British Israelists, well that is utter heresy, of the most contemptible kind.” I copied and pasted this, so the spelling error is yours. What does this mean? I am not British nor am I Christian and as for how I am supposed to find the “complete understanding” of the Jews within Christianity evades me.

      We do not need anything more than a few less apologists for these demons and just a little bit more exposure of their real intentions, which appear to be steaming down the track right now at an enormous rate of knots.

    • Hitler was not a victim of the Jewish conspiracy as much as he was a willing accomplice. He was Jewish, along with many of his officers. But, yes, the German people in general were victims of both the Jews and the Nazis. So, there is no valid reason to defend him or the national socialist regime.

    • dachsielady

       /  October 20, 2014

      ” Hitler was not a victim of the Jewish conspiracy as much as he was a willing accomplice. He was Jewish, along with many of his officers. But, yes, the German people in general were victims of both the Jews and the Nazis.”

      Very very interesting. National Socialism (Nazism) is basically the same ideology as Marxist Communism / socialism.

      Heard an interesting interview of a Croatian woman, Margaret Siegrist, who wrote a book, How Far Away is Never, of her experience in hating communist invasion of Croatia (Catholic country) so ended up with the Nazis being eventually shipped to USA. She said many non communist Jews in Croatia who wanted no part of communism but also just wanted their own country to be left alone. The Croatian people were told, go with the Nazis or be shot dead right now. Very interesting take on Communism and Nazism as personally and painfully experienced by this little girl.

      In any event, the White Nationalist, British Israeli, Christian Identity, White supremacism take on Hitler and Nazism is fundamentally anti-Christ and anti-true history. These people continually praise Hitler as such a “nice guy” and say the camps were places where prisoners were treated very well and had nice evening entertainments and good medical care. They also completely blank on the information of Hitler’s eugenics elimination of “life unworthy of life.”

      I am still studying and searching for truth on all of this and am certainly open to the idea that the “Holocaust” is not at all as it was presented in our history books and media, but generally when people have seemingly only two sides to choose from, it is the operation of Hegelian dialectic and both sides are bad and should not be joined, and both sides are controlled by the same entity. That is how I regard Nazism and Communism. Also, their is a level of Evil far higher or greater than the revolutionary Jew, and to some extent the ordinary, working class, Jews are terribly manipulated.

      “and the light shines on in the darkness and darkness could not overcome it.” John 1:5

    • Exactly, dachsielady. Holocaust revisionists tend to idealize Hitler. Honest revisionists, Michael Hoffman for example, will not make this fatal error.

      The Jews are willingly manipulated by dark spirits, whom they conjure up through their Kabbalist magic. The Jews and their masonic cohorts are guided by these fallen entities to direct world affairs.

    • Take note why don’t you. Nobody is idolising Hitler. What we are after is the truth. OK! Your mind is most certainly involved in something else, which I told you on day one. I got a whiff of Jewish propaganda.

    • What Jewish propaganda? Hitler was not an enemy to the Jewish central bankers. To say otherwise is pure fantasy. There was no completely autonomous banking system under Hitler.

    • Show me the evidence!!!!!

    • Evidence of what, specifically?

    • Well is there any point? Your apostles are already posting abuse and there is nothing to be gained from that.
      I jokingly suggested to you in response to the proposition that Hitler was a Jew and that he was financed by the Rothschild’s. Should that be so, that would be suggesting that Rothschild and the Jewish Cabal were responsible for the holocaust.
      Your response was to say that was right. They needed the excuse of the genocide against Jews in order to justify taking control of Palestine.
      They did not. Had you done your research properly, you would have no need to make such a statement. The right to Palestine, as I have already mentioned, was in the Balfour Agreement, which was drawn up by Lord Balfour and Lord Halifax for the Royal Institute of International Affairs which was I believe was a part of the Rhodes Foundation a branch of the Rothschild Empire.
      It was drawn up in return of the favour of a group of Jewish politicians in the US, who arranged with President Wilson to find a way of drawing the US into the Great War, which the UK was incapable of winning on its own. This was achieved by luring the Germans to sink the Lusitania, which generated the necessary excuse. So you were wrong on that count.
      You were also wrong on the other count, that is the holocaust. Rothschild did not pay for any holocaust of Jews because there was none. In the midst of all your spurious claims you included that one. Just as one of you commenters suggested that the Right Sector in Ukraine were indeed Zionist Nazis, in order to prove some other argument about a link with Hitler. They were no such thing. They were thugs in the pay of the US or Israel, probably Blackwater.
      The evidence which I would like from you? Well why not start with the Shoa? You know the Jews favourite song “There’s No Business Like Shoa Business.” Find me a piece of evidence which is indisputable. Might I suggest you start with evidence on one single gassed Jew. The US carried out thousands of autopsies after the end of the war and they could find not a one. Perhaps you can do better. Your thesis is certainly in need of some weighty evidence otherwise it is what I suggested it to be Jewish Pap!

    • Well we can leave it at that then, So in your terms The City of London and Rothschild, along with the Jewish Bankers in the US and of course Wall Street, ordered and paid for the Holocaust. And let us not forget that Hitler only had one ball. We’ve heard all of this before, but the truth lies in what actually happened and who ended up getting exactly what they wanted.
      This is a war to renew Jewish domination of Germany and Central Europe and for the maintenance of the power and glory of the British-Jewish Empire. The conspirators in America, England and France are responsible for the greatest tragedy the world has ever known and their names will be dishonored and execrated in history, It never would have started had not Roosevelt and the half Jew Bullitt guaranteed to Britain and France all of America’s resources, which meant, first, repeal of our neutrality act and supplying them with munitions and bombers without stint; second, in time the extension of unlimited credit; third, the use of our fleet in the Pacific to protect British, French and Dutch interests; if these did not suffice for victory, then our young men as air pilots and our fleet to be sent to Europe; and, lastly, if World Jewry and the British-Jewish Empire could not win with them, millions of our lads to die in Europe’s battles.
      (War! War! War!, Cincinnatus, pp. 188-189).
      Perhaps you could enlighten me as to why all of this should be necessary if Hitler was not a Roman Catholic but a Jew?

    • That Hitler was a Catholic is Jewish propaganda. It’s not true. National Socialist policies were opposed to Church teaching. There is no similarity. Furthermore, National Socialism was not at war with the Jewish central bankers as is commonly perceived by some revisionist historians. And of course the Central Bankers sponsored the Holocaust. How else were they to takeover Palestine? They needed the pretext. Hitler’s Jewish ethnicity is not as much of a problem as was his high occultism. There is plenty of information publicly available regarding Hitler and the occult. Most of the evidence points to Hitler being a pagan wizard who was controlled by the Central Jewish Banksters largely through blackmail (Hitler’s apparent homosexuality). Hitler went to extreme lengths to hide both his Jewishness and his homosexuality. Whether he knew it or not, he was fulfilling the Jewish goal of establishing false Israel in occupied Palestine.

    • formitable

       /  October 20, 2014

      Enochered…take a deep breath before your start reading this and please read it in entirety without getting too mad. Can not you see that the fix is in and you are being played by the isms that grab people by their ass and destroy their lives and their ability for critical thinking. What the hell happened in the Ukraine? Did not you notice the alliance of the Zionist Neocon Jews with the Fascists. If you missed it, please do some research…you will find it. So what does that tell us if we still have half a brain cell left? We need to wake up and understand the wicked alliances of Satan. Yes Fitz is right your religion is keeping your from understanding Truth. As long as you reject Jesus Christ as your Lord, as your God, as I AM…you will die in ignorance and in your sin. There is no truth outside of Jesus, Truth is imparted only by the Holy Ghost to those who ask (a comforter) in faith and repent of their sins. As long as we believe we have no sin, our sin remains and is not covered by His Blood (he who knew no sin became sin that we might be made the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus). Why would you reject so great a salvation? Don’t you know how filthy we are? If you love righteousness and truth you will go to him, then you will gradually come to know truth and it will set your free from the evil that reigns in the hearts of men.

      Do you think Hitler just appeared out of nowhere…of course not…he was groomed and chosen for his role. Do you understand that wicked men filled with hate for God and Christians will conspire to destroy good people for their ends, of course you do. Satan rules this world. Where do you think all the finances came from that oiled the Fascist and Communist regimes. Who perpetrated the wars…evil men…rich men…haters of Jesus Christ…Zionist…Gentiles…industry giants. The Jews are a large part of it but it is not just Judaism…it is the Babylonian Mystery Religion which cuts across all sectors of society. Are American deceived today…just as the German people were deceived in WWII? Why were they deceived and were they all deceived? The fix was in long before the death and destruction started. Do you really think if everyone got together they could defeat this evil behemoth? Enochered, I don’t know if I made a dent in your thinking but dude you need Jesus, not the beast and whore system. That is their ballpark and you cannot beat Satan, he will grind you and spit you out because he does not give a shit who you are. That is why Jesus came, that is why he died…for the poor of this world rich in faith who are having their faces ground into the dirt.

      God sets the rules not you or I. He is Holy and his thoughts are higher than ours but man wants to control his own destiny, his way…bad plan! It all starts by calling on the name of Jesus Christ and you keep calling till he answers you and he will answer that is his promise! You can either be a friend of God or an adversary…

      One other thing I will recommend…get hold of as many pdf’s or books that explain how the Zionist Jews of the World worked in concert with Hitler and his crew to solve the Jewish problem. And yes, the Zionists hated the Torah Jews and many others who resisted their power play for a ‘Jewish Talmudic Homeland’; the creation of Zionist Israel was a plan to destroy Christians and their doctrines by having them believe in lies by replacing true Israel with fraud, and it worked oh so well! True Christians and Torah Jews who resisted, were to be eliminated and marginalized by this Satanic Cabal which included the rich men of the earth…Do you want truth or do you want rosy glasses? The choice is yours and sometimes the truth hurts until we come to understand…knowledge without understanding is shit. There is a lake of fire for those who refuse God’s way and that is the problem…man wants to be his own God, just ask a Talmudic Jew or a satanist…”Gen_3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.” bullshit!

    • I’m well aware of the things you refer to. I am also well aware of how the system works, and I have not got the slightest interest in your pseudo-religious claptrap. What you appear to believe, along with the author of this blog is that we have not already passed along the same road and found that it led nowhere.

      We all had the same education an education of lies and deception. Most of which involved the misconceptions on this site. So please before you ask others to repeat a part of their life which they have outgrown, try and produce some evidence of what you claim. You see there were no Zionist Fascists in Ukraine, had there been they would most certainly not be inviting the Bolsheviks back. Learn some history why don’t you.

    • Wrong, enoch. Formitable is absolutely correct that a Zionist-fascist alliance carried out a coup d’etat in Ukraine. Even neo-Nazis like the moderator of the blog Daily Stormer admit this.

    • formitable

       /  October 21, 2014

      Enoched, so the proverb is true: Pro 27:22 Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him. You are a shill, a divisive entity and a liar….you have never encountered the living God…but rest assured, you will. You piss against the wall!

    • Well you have added nothing to this discussion of any worth and I suppose that your miserable attack on me is a substitute for a cogent argument to make your point.
      God bless you my son and may your dwytle never wyrtle.

  12. Marc Veilleux

     /  January 20, 2015

    The Khazar myth that all Ashkenazi Jews are descendants from Khazars was never confirmed by archeology! On the contrary, we have found evidence that there were Christians and muslims in the Khazar empire! There are no evidence that it was mostly jew!
    We are living in what is called «the time of the gentiles» until the apostasy is fulfilled; when the apostasy is fulfilled, this time of gentiles will end and the (jewish Zionist) Antichrist will come; at that time the 2 witnesses (Elijah and Henoch) will be sent to Earth and will be killed in Jerusalem.

    There are numerous passages in the old Testament as well as the New Testament (if you believe in the literal and obvious sense) to prove that the promises of God to the Israelites are not all fulfilled. The first Fathers of the Church believe in the establishment of God’s Kingdom on Earth (for around a thousand years) and considered those who didn’t believe as non-orthodox. Unfortunately, after the second century, Christians stopped believing in that kingdom on Earth.

    The Kingdom refers to the 12 tribes of Israel, not only to the jews! And the true Israelite is from the father, no matter what nation is the mother. In today’s Israel, they consider a jew from the mother only; this is simply wrong. To make it worse, they associate jew with Israelite. In Jesus days, jews were from the tribes of Judah and Benjamin. There are 10 lost tribes of Israel. Only God knows who they are! And he will call them in Israel when the times come.

    • dachsielady

       /  January 21, 2015

      I liked the first paragraph of Marc Veileux’s comment but the rest I do not agree with.

      I really think many are going down the road when they assume that are called Khazar Jews are who is being referred to in Revelation 2:0 and Rev. 3:9. I know it looks like we have a large number of “Jews who say they are Jews but are not” and that recent books, whom Texe Marrs has written about” show no DNA relationship to descendants of Abraham. But I have heard Robert Sungenis say that there were some “real Jews” who were in the Khazar area who never intermarried with the non-Jew Khazar race.

      Also, of course, I think in Romans Chapter 11 there is a verse that says that before Christ returns all Jews will be converted to Christ. So that tells me Jesus understands that there are at least some Jews who “say they are Jews and ARE Jews”. When a person converts to Jesus Christ, they become a former Jew. (I do not buy in to the thing that those 144,000 people are going to be all real Jews who convert but that gets us off into the dispensational Darby stuff.)

      Also the New Testament says a person who accepts Christ, whether they be Jew or gentile, has “circumcision of the heart”. I mean it is a heart or spiritual matter to accept Christ. The New Convenant is NOT about DNA AT ALL.

      But still that Romans Chapter 11 is a somewhat mysterious verse. We are supposed to study it and rightly divide the word of truth, but I trust Robert Sungenis’s exegesis much more that Protestant Exegesis. This verse to me will be somewhat of a mystery until Christ returns. We should be careful about coming to any firm conclusions. We can rule out certain interpretations and perhaps move closer to the truth, but I just think we have to be careful and not come to any firm conclusions.

      Jesus has in his mind that there are some real Jews who will be around at the time of His return, and it is those people that are referred to in Romans 11, and by deduction also Revelation 2:9.

      I have already somewhere shown and given links to the problem with interpreting 1000 literally in the Book of the Apocalyse. There ARE some literal numbers in the New Testament that ARE correctly taken literally, but “thousand” is not one of them.

      There will no literal one thousand year reign of Christ on this present literal earth. That just ain’t it. Many many verses in the NT tell us that fact.

      I think there were only two early Church Fathers who took the literal one thousand year reign of Christ on this earth and I have read quite a bit about this, but not lately. The early Chuch Fathers were fallible human beings and we do not have to have all of them completely agree on something. A few took another position and disagreed with most of the others and we just look at how all their interpretations played out over the years beyond the early Church Fathers. It played out that “no, there is NOT a literal one thousand reign of Christ on this earth. The whole Church of God
      (Garner Ted Armstrong) sects took that wrong turn.

  13. Timothy, you may find this interesting…
    Abraham’s Four Seeds: A Biblical Examination of the Presuppositions of Covenant Theology and Dispensationalism

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